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September 15[edit]

Adding an image[edit]

Hi, so I've tried multiple times to add an image to a wikipedia page "Shilpi Somaya Gowda" and it is a Wikipedia page about me, and I have the rights the image. However, it keeps getting removed. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishopsmg (talkcontribs) 01:55, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bishopsmg. The images you have attempted to upload were not uploaded correctly. Example: "Removing Shilpi_Somaya_Gowda_headshot.png, it has been deleted from Commons by Túrelio because: Copyright violation: picture exists here:" Example: "Removing SSG_6.2019.jpg, it has been deleted from Commons by Túrelio because: Copyright violation: external source, no license, no permission" Please read Wikipedia:Uploading images.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
@Bishopsmg: The photographer owns the copyright, not the image subject. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:35, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Bishopsmg. The image may only be used if the copyright owner (who is probably not you) explicitly releases it under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose: see donating copyright materials. Furthermore, please read conflict of interest and Autobiography for why it is inappropriate for you to be editing the Wikipedia article about yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 10:13, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Trying to make language template for Western Armenian[edit]


Hi, guys! I know Template:Lang-hy exists, but I'd like to make one for Template:Lang-hyw (Western Armenian). However I get a lua error if I simply port the code from one to another. How do I get a Western Armenian one?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

What lua error? I did a simple experiment of copying the content of {{lang-hy}} to {{lang-hyw}} and then previewed my sandbox with that and did not get a lua error. Because I wrote Module:Lang, if you are seeing lua errors, I want to know about them so that they can be fixed if necessary.
Trappist the monk (talk) 10:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I inputted the following code: <includeonly>{{#invoke:lang|lang_xx_inherit |code=hyw }}</includeonly><noinclude> {{Documentation|Template:Lang-x/doc}} [[Category:Indo-European multilingual support templates|Lang-hyw]] </noinclude>

The lua error I get is: "Lua error in Module:Lua_banner at line 90: attempt to index field 'edit' (a nil value)."

The only changes I made were "hy" -> "hyw" WhisperToMe (talk) 10:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Module:Lua banner is not part of Module:Lang. What editor are you using? Is it that abomination that is ve? Try again and save the results. Do you still see the error?
Trappist the monk (talk) 10:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
I use the regular source code editor on the webpage, using a laptop. Anyway I saved the page to Template:Lang-hyw. I still see an error... WhisperToMe (talk) 10:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
I just purged the page; now no error so no explanation for its existence.
Trappist the monk (talk) 10:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
The template worked the whole time. The error message was displayed in the documentation where {{Lang-x/doc}} calls {{Lua}} which calls Module:Lua banner. It tries to read the page itself but if the page does not exist then it produces the error. This can apparently affect both preview before the page exists and the original save which creates the page. When the page is later purged it does exist at the time and there is no problem. Previewing {{Lua}} alone on a non-existing template page gives the same error. I will report it at Template talk:Lua. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


Dear community, I ask you to help transfer the page from the draft section to the main space of English Wikipedia. Thank you very much. This is a link to the page: Draft:Nicolai Ivanovich Kravchenko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvers2 (talkcontribs) 10:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Not yet ready for mainspace. The most obvious problems are that there are no references and no wikilinks to other articles. I suggest that you read the advice at WP:Your first article and WP:Tutorial. I have taken the liberty of changing the link in your question from a URL to a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:52, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Use of thumbnails of copyrighted photos on Wikipedia[edit]

Greetings - -

I understand we can not include copyrighted photos in Wikipedia pages without permission.

My question is: can we include thumbnails of copyrighted photos in Wikipedia pages. This is already been deemed "legal" under "fair use" guidelines and is implemented legally on MANY online sites e.g. Google, Yahoo, etc. [ See "Are thumbnails fair use?" at ].

Seems like this should be acceptable for Wikipedia.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jau53 (talkcontribs) 17:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC) 
@Jau53: The rules on Wikipedia are stricter than fair use. See WP:NFCC for the guidelines. RudolfRed (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

English language[edit]

Hi. It would be nice if someone could tell me if these translations have to be sourced:

  • English: sing, sang, sung; Low German: singen, sung, sungen; Dutch: zingen, zong, gezongen; German: singen, sang, gesungen (strong verb)
English: laugh, laughed, laughed; Low German: lachen, lachte, lacht; Dutch: lachen, lachte, gelachen; German: lachen, lachte, gelacht (weak verb)
  • English: I dream, he dreams; Low German: ik drööm, he dröömt; Dutch: ik droom, hij droomt; German: ich träume, er träumt (non-modal verb)
English: I shall, he shall; Low German: ik schall, he schall; Dutch: ik zal, hij zal; German: ich soll, er soll (modal verb)
  • English: foot; Low German: Foot; Dutch: voet; German: F; Norwegian and Swedish: fot ("f" and "v" from Proto-Indo-European "p" through Grimm's law)
Latin: pes; Greek: πόδι (pódi); Russian: под (pod); Sanskrit: द् (pád)
  • English: cheese, church; West Frisian: tsiis, tsjerke; ("ch" and "ts" from palatalization)
Low German: Keese, Kark; Dutch: kaas, kerk; German: Käse, Kirche ("k" without palatalization)ArchitectMan (talk) 17:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
@ArchitectMan: in what context? on Wictionary, you need sources. Here, any assertion that is challenged must be sourced or removed, so I think a "rule of reason" applies. If you see something that is suspect, then either source it, challenge it with a {{fact}} template, or remove it. But randomly doing this to all occurances in all articles would in my opinion be disruptive for most readers. -Arch dude (talk) 19:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
The context is presumably what can be seen in the history of English language? --David Biddulph (talk) 20:00, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes :-) There were grammar examples for several years and i enhanced them with Low German, and with the modal/non-modal verbs example. I also highlighted some letters. The examples illustrated and related to the text right above them.ArchitectMan (talk) 21:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
In my opinino they should be sourced in this context. This is basically the subject of the article. Probably not an explicit separate reference for each and every variant of each and every word, but surely we need references. -Arch dude (talk) 03:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

September 16[edit]


I would like to know which Wikipedia rules I have contravened such that I am blocked. Free speech? My *rse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swidger28 (talkcontribs) 05:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I can see no evidence that you are blocked. Perhaps you forgot to log on and received a message intended for a vandal using the same IP address. Just log in and try again, but please note that former QES pupils must already have an article on Wikipedia to be added to the list. By the way, Wikipedia editors are expected to be polite. Dbfirs 06:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps you may be asking why your edits were reverted in this dif? OkayKenji (talk page) 06:23, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
WP:s purpose is not to give you a forum for free speech, more at Wikipedia:Free speech. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

home random login settings[edit]

Why do I always get an overlay down the left hand side of the Wikipedia page with these headings which I cannot turn off? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:15, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Confidential information on[edit]


confidential information regarding our products is available on - i can't find a way to contact them directly to have it removed. Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reb1walsh (talkcontribs) 08:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC) has no connection with Wikipedia. It is an American website hosted by of 665 Third Street #207, San Francisco, CA, 94107 (Phone +1-650-319-8930). Perhaps someone here can find out for you who runs the website. It would be best to contact them directly, rather than the hosting company. Dbfirs 09:10, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


Prithvi Singh Azad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am the Grandson of Baba Prithvi Singh Azad. The following statements given on Wikipedia are incorrect:

He came from a Dalit family[2] . This is incorrect & needs to be removed. He came from a Bhati Rajput family oroginally from Jaisalmer, Rajasthan.

After the Indian independence, he served as the minister of labor and local self-government in the Bhim Sen Sachar ministry in the state of Punjab.[3] He was also a member of the first Constituent Assembly of India.[4] Both these statements are incorrect & need to be removed. It was reported that Azad was with Chandra Shekhar Azad just before the British forces surrounded him at Alfred Park on 27 February 1931, but the latter asked Prithvi Singh to escape while deciding to continue his battle with the forces. This statement is incorrect & needs to be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4055:208:A69F:9FF:6A6F:258D:83A9 (talk) 09:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, all the statements you refer to are supported by seemingly independent reliable sources. Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in reliable secondary sources. If you wish to see changes made you can request this at the article talk page. You will need to provide sources to support your version. As you have a conflict of interest you should not attempt to edit the article yourself. Please do not disrupt the article further. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Table at List of nearest black holes[edit]

I am incompetent at editing tables, and resorted to VisualEdit (which I hate) for some reorganization of content, but the result has a couple of flaws. The biggest issue is that the table has some of the lines under "system" each match two lines under "component" (good!) but when you sort by any column those lines split and duplicate (bad!). Ideally the double cells would never split, but I guess one could live with double cells ("system" entries) splitting when sorting on the single cells ("component" entries) but not when sorting on double cells.

Furthermore, if some table-gnome could come by and fix the following it would be great:

  1. There is some inconsistency in the headers (font size and bold)
  2. The last column ("notes...") should not be sortable

TigraanClick here to contact me 09:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Collapsing rowspan when sorting cannot be avoided as far as I know. I removed all <small>...</small>, made the notes column unsortable and some other tweaks.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I want to create my own profile[edit]

I hereby wish to create a profile of my own on wikipedia as for information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kavindja (talkcontribs) 10:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@Kavindja: Your use of the word 'profile' suggests to me that you have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia does not have profiles; it has articles. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not social media for people to tell the world about themselves. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability; in this case, that of a notable person). Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject wants to say about themselves. Please read Wikipedia's policy on autobiographies; creating one is strongly discouraged. This is because people naturally write favorably about themselves. In order for you to be successful in writing about yourself, you would essentially need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on what independent sources you are completely unconnected to have chosen to write about you. Most people cannot do this. If you just want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media like Facebook. 331dot (talk) 10:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wikipedia isn't a social media website with profiles; it's an encyclopedia with articles on notable subjects. See also the advice at WP:Autobiography and WP:Your first article. You can, however create a user page with a brief summary of your activities as a Wikipedia editor. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
... but it shouldn't look like an article. See the link above for guidance. Dbfirs 20:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

One year since submission draft:Stefan_Thurner[edit]

Dear Help desk, next week it will be a year since I submitted the article I rewrote it several times, added content and sources etc. to meet all the wikipedia-helper's inputs. In summer I asked what could be wrong with the text and was told that it looks fine.

I understand that there is a lot of other articles around and that you are all volunteers (I really appreciate what you are doing!), but is it normal that submissions are left unnoticed for SUCH a long time? Thanks for your inputs -- and special thanks for accelerating the proceedings (if that would be possible)... Avecaesaria (talk) 11:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

You still haven't submitted it for further review, as you were told in response to your questions at the Teahouse in March and in August. When you want to resubmit it, you can use the blue "Resubmit" button. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
filer resubmitted it. Note on file: the backlog is currently about 5 months. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:42, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Danish Renzu - Wikipedia page[edit]

This is very very unfair that if anyone creates the name of a known filmmaker Danish Renzu you keep suspending the account. Why so unfair to this filmmaker? There was recent account created by someone with all correct links and media — you can google and find, and again the account was suspended. Is this fair? Yes the filmmaker has done enough work and should be up on Wikipedia but again and again, repeatedly you’re blocking us. When we stopped and accepted that we will not be creating one. Someone else did unknown to us but you again got that removed? Why? This is not done.

This violates our rights to keep Danish Renzu account who has tons of articles and media but removed repeatedly by some users here misusing Wikipedia guidelines. Please fix and enable Wikipedia page of Danish Renzu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheikhzaidzahoor (talkcontribs) 14:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Sheikhzaidzahoor You have no 'rights' to edit this privately operated website. (and who is "our"? Accounts cannot be shared). The article was deleted per the result of a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danish Renzu. In order to recreate it, the reasons for deletion must be addressed. You have created a draft article about this person at Draft:Danish Renzu, that is what you should do. Once it is ready for a review, you can submit it using Articles for Creation and if there are proper sources and this person meets the notability criteria for creative professionals, you should be well on your way. 331dot (talk) 15:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You have no "rights", only privileges, and those privileges will be withdrawn if you are editing in violation of a block. Draft:Danish Renzu has no references to published reliable sources independent of the subject to demonstrate notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Hong Kong protests is not automatically archiving[edit]

How do we make Talk:2019 Hong Kong protests archive automatically? Please {{ping}} me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: To re-instate automatic archiving, the line archive=Talk:2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests/Archive %(counter)d, near the top of the talk page, needs to be updated to match the current name of the page. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Upload my picture at my profile[edit]

Why i'm upload my picture at my profile?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deenaram choudhary (talkcontribs) 17:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@Deenaram choudhary: Wikipedia does not have "profiles". You are editing your user page, which is not a social media type page or article space. It is a place to introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use, not a general place for you to tell the world about yourself or to post your resume. You do not yet have the needed qualifications to upload images. Please read WP:USERPAGE for information on acceptable and unacceptable user page content. 331dot (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Test in template if an article is a redirect[edit]

Is there a part of template syntax that allows one to check if an article is a redirect? I've created {{Tropical cyclone season}} and I have the problem that, at e.g. 2019–20 Australian region cyclone season#External links, as Tropical cyclones in 2020 exists, it's wikilinked next to Tropical cyclones in 2019 in the navbox title. The problem is that the link isn't useful as the 2020 page redirects to the 2019 one. I'd like the 2020 number there to simply render as text (which it would do if the redirect didn't exist). DaßWölf 19:28, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@Daß Wölf: I think {{Ifexist_not_redirect}} may be what you're looking for. RudolfRed (talk) 19:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, looks like that worked. DaßWölf 19:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Daß Wölf: This also works well User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 20:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

User Pages[edit]

Hello there, I received notification that someone does not believe my username is real and it is a bot. May I make it clear that I am a real user though the page, and how is a user page to be formatted? Is there an example I can see?

Thanks for any help. Nathanbreeze (talk) 20:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

There is no such notification on your user talk page. Where do you think you received it? --David Biddulph (talk) 20:12, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

The notification has since disappeared. I found it this morning by clicking on the little bell icon. If there is no issue, we can close this request.Nathanbreeze (talk) 20:14, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

You can probably safely ignore that. I've never seen a (ro)bot named Nathan but I've met several people with that name. I'll mark this as resolved, feel free to remove the "resolved" tag if it happens again. Poveglia (talk) 20:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref too many keys[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Archon54 (talkcontribs) 16 September 2019 21:26 (UTC)

@Archon54: Please give a link to the page concerned. Your most recent edits seem to be to Michael Ramsey but I cannot see error messages there. Eagleash (talk) 21:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Found and Fixed Eagleash (talk) 21:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

September 17[edit]

Template:Post-nominals or equivalent[edit]

Hi Folks, I have a Spanish cardiologist Fausto J Pinto who seems to have a list of post nominals after his name. Serious dude. Is there an equivalent of the above for Spanish or Portuguese folk or indeed any other folk that has a similar fellowships that can be presented as a post nom. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 11:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Looking at your last edit those are not really "post-nominals" but positions; I think you were correct in removing them. Arguably those could be fitted in the workplaces field in {{Infobox academic}}, but meh. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:27, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
@Tigraan: Possibly something for later, but not what I'm talking about at the mo. I'm looking for Spanish or Portuguese Post-nominals template. 'Template:Post-nominals' has collections for certain countries, but nowt for Spain of Portugal. Is there such a template. scope_creepTalk 20:18, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
@Scope creep: OK. I guess you could always modify the template for es/pt awards if you know what those are. {{post-nominals}} itself is page-protected, but (looking at the code) all you need to do is create the appropriate country subpage. Looking at Template:Post-nominals/SRI for an example the format seems relatively simple. If you don't feel like doing it because it's too technical, give me a list of Wikipedia pages for the awards with their respective abbreviations and a ping and I will make the page. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:29, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@Tigraan: That is very nice of you and much appreciated. I admit it will take some of the load of. I can start with the medical ones I guess with the Portuguese group as they are probably the most relevant. I can check the appropriate articles and see if they are present. He has FESC, FACC, FSCAI and FASE. FESC is a Fellow of the European Society of Cardiology, FACC is Fellow of the American College of Cardiology, FSCIA is Fellow of the Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions and FASE is Fellow of the American Society of Echocardiography. For the Portuguese it will need to cover medical, military, chivalry and honours, government and parliament and miscellaneous, e.g. civil group. Taking a look at this: Orders, decorations, and medals of Portugal its basic listing with loads of medals. The one thing I found is some may seem notable but aren't e.g. when your Knighted in this country its not included in post-noms. So I think what will happen we can bundle it all in and see what needs to be pulled out later. Each one will need to be checked to ensure it is the correct acronym. scope_creepTalk 15:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Cross-wiki (Wikipedia/Wikiversity) rules[edit]

As I asked at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard#Wikiversity, Wikiversity:Motivation and emotion/Book/2015/Masturbation motivation is an obvious and transparent attempt to get something that looks exactly like a Wikipedia article but would not survive an AfD published on Wikiversity. Does Wikiversity have a rule against that? --Guy Macon (talk) 13:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: I suggest you ask Wikiversity, as it is a separate project with its own rules. Looks like the talk page for the main page is where questions are asked: [2]. RudolfRed (talk) 19:49, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

If anyone can please help.

My grandfather was the developer named in this patent and all my revisions are being locked due to lack of sourcing...although the patent which proves is already included as a source. They are refusing to discuss on the talk page. Blocking me and the truth for sport of perhaps they are paid by Fleshlight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:34 (talk) 15:04, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

I have protected the article. You must discuss this on the article talk page instead of edit warring. 331dot (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Article for review[edit]

I want to send my article for review, but i am not able to find an option that helps me do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanshikasood0112 (talkcontribs) 17:50, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@Vanshikasood0112: Welcome to Wikipedia. When you are ready to submit your draft for review, add {{subst:submit}} to it, and then click the button. RudolfRed (talk) 17:58, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, but ia am not able to see the option for submission — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanshikasood0112 (talkcontribs) 18:12, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps you didn't read what RudolfRed said? You can submit by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of your draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
@Vanshikasood0112: Just for clarification add the text as instructed and click 'publish' as per typical editing. This will submit the article for review. It will need some copy-editing to fall more in line with the manual of style. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:08, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Error in Tibet article[edit]

To whom it may concern

There is a serious error in the TIBET article which may indicate bias by the writer, since what the Wikipedia text says ("between 200,000 and 1 million Tibetans were murdered by Chinese military") is not what the cited article says ("between 200,000 and 1million Tibetans may have died"). Note that during the Great Leap Forward large numbers of people across all of China died from the effects of malnutrition, and from outright starvation (see the Wikipedia article "Great Chinese Famine").

I think the text of the article should match the citation, or else the citation should be changed to one which matches the text of the article.

Thank you in advance for your help. Philip Harris

DETAILS OF ERROR: Inaccurate text in the Tibet article, in the section titled "From 1950 to present"

Current text: "During the Great Leap Forward, between 200,000 and 1,000,000 Tibetans were murdered by Chinese military [62]"

Proposed fix: This should be changed to read: "During the Great Leap Forward, between 200,000 and 1,000,000 Tibetans may have died [62]" Note 62 cites "World Directory of Minorities and Indigenous Peoples - China : Tibetans". Minority Rights Group International. July 2008. Archived from the original on November 1, 2014. Retrieved April 23, 2014.

The actual text from "World Directory of Minorities and Indigenous Peoples - China : Tibetans" at says: "Land reforms and the loss of the lamas' traditional power led first to unrest in eastern Kham and Amdo in the mid-1950s. The Great Leap Forward period (during which anywhere between 200,000 and 1 million Tibetans may have died) was also one during which there was growing disdain shown by Chinese authorities to the traditional Tibetan religious and political leaders such as the Dalai Lama." (talk) 18:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
The IP posted to Talk:Tibet#Misquoted text in Tibet article section titled "From 1950 to present" eight days ago with no reply. I have checked the source and made the suggested change.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Carolyn Ayers[edit]

Hello I stated a Wikipedia page but it is say it can't be found Carolyn Ann Ayers (Philanthropist) Inspirational Speaker and I uploaded my picture to put on my page but I not sure how to place it there. Can I get help with preparing my page.

Thank you Carolyn Ayers at <redacted>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Carolyn Ann Ayers (Philanthropist) Inspirational Speaker (talkcontribs) 19:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

There is a full explanation of what happened to your user page at User talk:Carolyn Ann Ayers (Philanthropist) Inspirational Speaker. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is and what it can be used for. Ask again here if you need guidance on creating articles. You might like to read WP:Your first article. Dbfirs 19:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Carolyn Ann Ayers (Philanthropist) Inspirational Speaker: Hello, unfortunately you seem to have misunderstood the purpose of Wikipedia. It is not a place to create an autobiography or 'profile' as you would at social media sites. Wikipedia relies entirely on reporting what has been written about subjects that pass the notability guidelines in independent reliable sources. Please see here and here for why autobios are not encouraged.
If you are truly notable (in the Wikipedia sense) interested editors will create an article about you using independent sources in due course.
Note: that you appear to have found the user subpage you created and that it is currently nominated for deletion. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Sorry cannot help more. Eagleash (talk) 19:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
It was the main user page that was misused, contravening WP:User pages. The user is now blocked. Dbfirs 07:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Question regarding user sandboxes[edit]

Even though I am not blocked (because I am asking this question), can blocked users still edit their own sandboxes? Just wondering. --Plankhouse0 (talk) 19:29, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello Plankhouse0. A blocked editor is unable to edit any page other than their own user talk page. That includes their main userpage and any of their sub-pages including sandbox pages. If they misuse their user talk page, an administrator can revoke access. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:35, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Princess Beatrice of York[edit]

Ref number 31 is wrong in terms of publication and date of publication. Please fix and leave I quote Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 23:13, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done Eagleash (talk) 23:42, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

September 18[edit]

There's no Edit button[edit]

There's no edit button. I want to edit an article about Felipe Vazquez. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AJBaseball (talkcontribs) 03:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

@AJBaseball: you can start by reading WP:YFA. Writing an article is one of the hardest tasks here, that's why I want to caution you not to be too fast. If it takes a month, then it takes a month. There is no need to hurry. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:00, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
The article Felipe Vázquez can be edited by clicking the "Edit" button at the top, or by clicking "Edit" for any section. What device are you using? Dbfirs 06:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@AJBaseball: Felipe Vázquez is semi-protected so it can only be edited by autoconfirmed users. You can click "View source" and submit and edit request, or you can make seven more edits to other pages so you become autoconfirmed. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:41, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, missed spotting that. Dbfirs 18:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

September 18[edit]

Adding entries in other languages to a Wikipedia page[edit]

Hello, were trying to link this page in the Swazi Wikipedia ( which is about God, to the already existing page in English Wikipedia God, however, wasn't able to do so (I'm relatively a newbie in Wikipedia, so, still don't really know how to do things here properly by the way), so, could someone help me in this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheWikipedian1250 (talkcontribs) 04:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, TheWikipedian1250. Interlanguage links are now usually handled through WP:Wikidata. The problem was that there is an existing Wikidata entry d:Q190 which links articles about "God" in 178 languages, but the Swazi article ss:Nkulunkulu was linked to a separate Wikidata entry d:Q31834479 which linked to no other article. I have merged the two Wikidata items, so the Swazi article is now linked to all the other ones.  Done --ColinFine (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  • TheWikipedian1250, since you are there... The external link section in ss:Nkulunkulu looks highly inappropriate to me. The link might be appropriate, but God is not a purely Catholic or even Christian concept; if "Nkulunkulu" is only about the Christian or Catholic God, the Wikidata merge might be inappropriate. There is also an external link to Conservapedia, which is inappropriate (not a reliable source even for what US evangelists think). TigraanClick here to contact me 10:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
It's a references section. Each language makes their own rules. The Swazi Wikipedia only has 485 articles and 14 active editors so they may not even have many rules. I wouldn't apply standards of the English Wikipedia. Only one article ss:LiBhayibheli (Bible) is above 16 kB, and it has no references. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough that the rules (or absence of rules) might be different than en-wp. Still, all Wikipedias have roughly the same objective to present unbiaised information (I doubt the WMF would be pleased with a "only Christian sources" rule), so we might as well give a nudge when a local editor comes by. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:16, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


Hi. i downloaded my DNA file from Ancestry and was told i would have to wait for a Gedmatch file. So now a week later i dont know where to go to find it — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoyGem (talkcontribs) 10:09, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Correct the details about "Pasi" (cast) of India[edit]

Please remove the word "Untouchable" From the Article Pasi (caste) from your wikipedia. Please use Marshal cast instead.

You are requested to please update the article with correct word. We have tried many times but some time they correct the description but again some editor undo the changes.

Indian editors are very much cast biased. They are very rude and less knowing the socity.

Pasi cast is not Untouchable. Pasi is the warrior class in Indian cast System. As name suggest "Pasi" Means "Sword holder" in the palm.

"Pasi" name is derived from Sanskrit Language as below--

पासी = प + असि

प = पंजा = Palm

असि = तलवार = Sword

Your are requested to please update the correct word as warrior class / Marshal cast.

In India "Pasi" cast people can be fall pray under the castieat people of other states of India. Because every people search the cast of the people on Wikipedia page in India.

You are requested to please Correct the information or delete the article.

Being a Pasi cast person I am very much disturbed about the article.

You can earn more information from website  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrshesh (talkcontribs) 10:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC) 
We would be happy to include the etymology you give, but we will need you to give a reliable source for that. Your personal knowledge of Sanskrit is not enough, because information on Wikipedia must be verifiable by readers, hence linked to a reference.
For the same reason, I would have removed the assertion that the Pasi were one of the untouchable communities if it was not followed by two references: Pandey, Gyan (1988), Peasant Revolt and Indian Nationalism: The Peasant Movement in Awadh, 1919-1922 and Rawat, Ramnarayan S. (2011). Reconsidering Untouchability: Chamars and Dalit History in North India. I have not read those, but at a first glance those look like reliable scholarly sources.
I note that you have posted to the talk page of the article. The issue was already debated in 2015 as can be seen in this talk page archive, and you are unlikely to get much attention if you do not provide reliable sources contradicting what the scholarly literature says. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Fanciful etymologies rarely surprise me, but – How do you work out असि = तलवार (asi = talavāra)?? —Tamfang (talk) 01:02, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

I need help with the glitch alphabetize[edit]

I want to create an account and to edit impose, but if you try to correct it with a new system that only gives me an error message as soon as they hit the save button reading, as you edit could not be processed due to the loss of data session. "Because of my name" Al175an "mean, but he is not eating prior to logging on to one, indeed, can not, what do I talk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:40, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Also asked (and we're attempting to understand them) at the Teahouse. No need for a reply here. see here Nick Moyes (talk) 13:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


As is now trying to create, and the other called "Al175an 2". But this does not seem to assist the error is still time to try to make reviews! Please help fast, I do not know what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

dRelated to previous post above. Also asked (and we're attempting to understand them) at the Teahouse. No need for a reply here. see here Nick Moyes (talk) 13:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Not-for-profit association page[edit]

I'm part of an education and communication committee for a not-for-profit association. We are interested in starting a page to briefly describe what our organization does but from my reading on Wikipedia, I cannot upload any information due to my conflict of interest. Would it be possible to upload information if it is independently referenced? Do you have any other suggestions Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManitobaBreakfast (talkcontribs) 14:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

My advice would be to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing first. For many people that'll be enough reason not to want an article. Poveglia (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
ManitobaBreakfast Please read the guidelines for what topics should have articles. Has your organization been written about extensively by independent sources? If not, then it is not subtitle for a Wikipedia article. On the other hand, if there are suitable sources available, please let us know. If you go to Requested articles and post a short (1-2 sentence) description of the article topic and several sources (minimum 3-5), someone may come along and write the article. However, Requested articles tends to be backlogged and volunteers write about what interests them so there is no guarantee someone will pick it up. But it's a start. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


[4] Because of my private sphare and my right on Wp:Anon, I don't want to be registered here. Please create a possibility for an opt out. --Belladonna* (talk) 17:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

@Belladonna*: Wikichecker is a side project unrelated to the help desk. You can share your concerns about being included via email at: [at] gmail [dot] com. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:46, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
perhaps it is possible to tell me, if such an opt-out is possible? I feel seriously threatened in my private security.--Belladonna* (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I agree that there is an obvious security risk if this time analysis is publicly available. It would be useful to have an opt-out. Dbfirs 18:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Wikichecker is an independent website unaffiliated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. This is from that website: "The data upon which this site's contents are based is publicly available on wikipedia. The author of this site has no affiliation with wikipedia or other wikimedia projects."
When you edit Wikipedia, you agree that all of your edits will be logged forever for attribution purposes, and that this data will be available to the public. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
The time analysis seems similar to the one at xtools [5], linked at the bottom of every "Contributions" page, or am I missing something? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
You are correct, it's just a bit more detailed and goes back further. Are we being over-sensitive? Do many burglars read Wikipedia? Dbfirs 19:46, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Anyone who looks at Wikichecker's report on me will be able to deduce quite a lot about me. I don't care at all; but I understand that many others will care. It's unfortunate, but I don't know what is best done about it. Maproom (talk) 20:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)     P.S. I suggest to Belladonna that they change the link at the top of this section, if they'd prefer people not to look at the findings about them. Point it at mine if you like; as I said, I don't care.

Would this bot violate copyright?[edit]

Let's say that there was a Wikibot that reviewed reliable sources for a given topic, and based on those sources, used Markov chains to autogenerate a full article for that topic. It would only process a request if there were sufficient reliable sources to create generally unique Markov chains. Would this violate any copyright? May His Shadow Fall Upon You Talk 18:14, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

If you or anyone could make such a bot, I'd say just make it. Our role could then be just to weed through the bot's work and eliminate that which is a copyright violation or any other problems with the bot's work. I'm probably not addressing your question but I just thought I'd mention that. Bus stop (talk) 18:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@May His Shadow Fall Upon You: This is a unique application of stochastic modeling. There's a little info about a text generating application in the Markov chain#Speech recognition section, under the Markov text generators section. But we're far away from this being encyclopedia quality - checking for copyright violations would be the easy part - that's already done now. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:56, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Article content question[edit]

Yes I was reading the white pride artical or definition and it is flawed and a none factual definition that was based of hear say and speculation in anti-semetic texts against white people based of a broad brush discription of a stereo type the fact is you can be white and proud about it with out being a bigot the racist word is a fake word. bigot is the proper term and word. for one the Blackpanther party and new Blackpanther party are bigoted or racist groups and yell black power black pride all the time and the openly talk about killing white people. so that term should be listed as a bigoted term as well. so should hispanic pride since I have in person heard Hispanic men call Black americans of color names and vise versa. with Black Americans towards whites hispanics and Asians and asians about whites Blacks hispanics and Gay pride is racist against heterosexuals and can be catogorized as hetarophobia or caucahetarophobia < the hatred of straight men and women in sexual orientation and hatred against white heterosexual men and women. could you please correct the contributors post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I added a header to this question. Please post your suggestions to the article's talk page for discussion. RudolfRed (talk) 19:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
But first read the "Frequently asked questions (FAQ)" box at Talk:White pride. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

The new logo for Fundbox[edit]


I'm trying to upload the new Fundbox logo without any success. Here is the URL of the page -> Fundbox Would you mind assisting me with it?

BR, Dima — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forforeach (talkcontribs) 21:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Is the new logo just the word Fundbox, partially underlined in blue chalk? This is probably too simple to be copyright, so please see WP:Logos. If you have a copy of the image, you upload it direct to Wikipedia (not Commons) with the appropriate restriction on usage. See WP:Upload. Dbfirs 00:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
@Forforeach: Specifically, is it As a new user you cannot upload files directly to Wikipedia but we can upload a smaller cropped version for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


Even though I own my own internet company....I am finding it hard to find my information now on your site.....My name is Freddy Fuller, and I am very well known for my boxing skills all over the world.....and USED to have great content on your site under Freddie Fuller, Frederick Fuller, Freddy Stephen Fuller, F Fuller, F. S Fuller and even a few more....BUT now I cannot seem to find any of them. What am I doing wrong all of a sudden. Please help me if you can as I used this information all over the world and was very proud of this information and how it was presented on Wikipedia. Wiki the same site as it used to be there as well.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated Thanks God Bless Freddy


[redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederick S Fuller (talkcontribs) 23:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

We have an article Freddy Stephen Fuller to which you have contributed. Your own sandbox contains some of your opinions. Other alternative forms of your name are (correctly) redirects to Freddy Stephen Fuller. There are lots of Wikis on the internet, but only one genuine Wikipedia. If you think that our article is not accurate, then please suggest improvements at Talk:Freddy Stephen Fuller. You should not edit the article directly because of your WP:Conflict of interest. We have no connection with, nor any authority over other Wikis on the internet. Dbfirs 00:05, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
@Frederick S Fuller: Special:Contributions/Frederick S Fuller shows you created articles called Freddy Fuller, Fuller Freddie and Fred (BC Boxer). They were all redirected to Freddy Stephen Fuller. We don't make separate articles with other forms of a name. As an administrator I can see you also created Frederick (Fuller) which was deleted. Click the "View history" tab at top of Freddy Stephen Fuller to see the page history. A lot of unsourced and too promotional content was removed in 2014. It should satisfy Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and other Wikipedia policies. You have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and should not edit the article directly. A wiki is a type of website. Wikipedia is the best known wiki but there are thousands of others. Some people use "Wiki" as a name for Wikipedia but it's misleading and we don't like it. We even have a page about it: Wikipedia:Don't abbreviate "Wikipedia" as "Wiki"! PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)